Ottawa Police Chief Charles Bordeleau said he will need more resources to address marijuana dispensaries operating in the city and keep them closed. Speaking at the police services board this week, Bordeleau said they have long held the opinion that the dispensaries operating in the city are illegal and have executed search warrants and arrested staff as a result. He said now that the province has announced plans to sell through government-run stores the police will need more resources to close the dispensaries that are operating. [continues 58 words]
Municipalities make pitch at Health Canada hearings Canada's cities don't want Ottawa or the provinces to pass the costs of dealing with marijuana legalization onto them. Winnipeg councillors and president of the Federation of Canadian Municipalities (FCM) Jenny Gerbasi said municipalities are worried about the cost to get ready for the new regime. "Our cities and communities are where cannabis will actually be used and sold and we have to adapt bylaws, programs, policies," she said. The FCM will present to the House of Commons Committee studying the marijuana legalization bill on Friday. Dozens of groups have been presenting to the committee this week, including dispensary owners, medical users, police agencies and public health departments. [continues 252 words]
Funding set for advanced drug-testing system The planned supervised injection site at the Sandy Hill Community Health Centre will include world-class drug-testing technology. With funding from the Canadian Institute of Health Research, the program will be able to operate a mass spectrometry machine, which can determine the chemical makeup of users' drugs, Lynne Leonard of the Ontario HIV Treatment Network announced Thursday. Drug-testing services are themselves rare, and it is even rarer for harm-reduction organizations to offer testing as technically advanced as mass spectrometry. The system at Sandy Hill will be the first of its kind in Ontario. [continues 87 words]
Pop-up injection site location to be disclosed Friday Ottawa's first pop-up supervised injection site will open Friday. The group Overdose Prevention Ottawa (OPO) will make the announcement Thursday morning but will not disclose its location ahead of operations, which are scheduled to begin Friday. "We're going to do exactly what Toronto did and not disclose our location until we set it up," said Marilou Gagnon, associate professor at the University of Ottawa School of Nursing and volunteer with OPO. [continues 135 words]
Ottawa's first supervised injection site was granted an exemption by Health Canada on Wednesday. "I'm feeling elated here. It's a strange feeling to be at this point now, after so much time and effort and energy," said Rob Boyd, Oasis program director at the Sandy Hill Community Health Centre, where the site will be housed. Boyd said he will meet with the province next week to discuss the budget to build the injection room, which will include five specialized booths for drug users. [continues 104 words]
Last month 134 admitted to ER for suspected overdose Health Canada's final decision on whether a supervised injection site can open at the Sandy Hill Community Health Centre could be coming any day. According to the Health Canada website, the proposal has completed all five of the required application steps and has now reached the decision stage. Rob Boyd, Oasis program director at the centre, told Metro he was notified by the department Wednesday they had completed the application to the satisfaction of Health Canada and their case would now be forwarded for a final decision. [continues 129 words]
A new online survey launched Wednesday wants to gather public thoughts on how Ontario should approach legalizing marijuana. It wants to know how it can do it in a way that "protects youth, prevents harms and ensures that Ontario's roads continue to be among the safest in North America," according to a media release. Among the questions are "Would you support the Ontario government putting in place stricter penalties (e.g. increased fines, longer licence suspensions) for drug-impaired driving?" and "What public health and safety measures are most important to you as we determine who should sell and distribute cannabis in Ontario?" [continues 149 words]
For Ottawa residents, getting a naloxone kit to help protect against overdose deaths is as easy as finding a pharmacy and going through a 30-minute information session. Across the river in Gatineau, however, the situation is much different. The Ministry of Health and Social Services in Quebec does not provide funding for naloxone kits like its Ontario counterpart. Some municipal public health units, like Sante Montreal, provide kits, but only within that specific city. For residents of cities like Gatineau, where neither the province nor the municipality provides coverage for naloxone, drug users may be left in the lurch. [continues 147 words]
June a record for number of people treated for overdoses At least 134 people were admitted to Ottawa emergency departments for suspected drug overdoses during the month of June, according to data from Ottawa Public Health, as the overdose crisis continues to deepen in Ontario. That brings the number to at least 735 emergency room visits in 2017 - a 25 per cent increase in overdoses compared with the same period in 2016. In the final week of June, 42 people were treated for overdoses, the highest number of cases since Ottawa began recording the data in late 2015. During the first week of July, the number dipped slightly to 35. [continues 212 words]
Users argue too many rules still surround legalization Medical marijuana users say the Trudeau government's plans to legalize marijuana involve too many roadblocks. Activists and users said during a press conference Monday that the Liberal's bill, which has yet to pass in the House, still marks marijuana as something people need to be ashamed of. "My Canada includes being marginalized, stigmatized and criminalized for picking a plant over pills," said Loretta Clark, 58, who said she has been using cannabis since she was 12. [continues 202 words]
Over 1,000 trained to use overdose prevention kit Anglican churches across Ottawa are now spreading a gospel of a different kind, teaching people to use naloxone to prevent fatal opioid overdoses. Rev. Monique Stone held a meeting at her church in Carp earlier this year, after unsuccessfully trying to get a naloxone kit to have on hand for New Year's Eve. Stone tried five pharmacies and found none was offering the free kits. Eventually, she linked up with Vanier pharmacist Mark Barnes and they got the idea of hosting a training session. [continues 296 words]
City's health authority looks to cigarettes for guidelines You likely won't be able to smoke marijuana anywhere you can't smoke cigarettes today when pot becomes legal next year. But that's just one of the challenges Ottawa Public Health (OPH) is working out. The Liberal government's plan to legalize marijuana by July 2018 was released in April, and provinces are next to set up rules about how the drug can be sold. After that, municipalities will set their own rules. [continues 182 words]
Weed community isn't fully behind legalization plans With marijuana legalization tabled - and ahead of April 20, as promised by the governing Liberals - some Ottawa activists say they aren't confident the new laws will reflect the concerns of the cannabis community. Mike Foster, owner of Crosstown Traffic, a sponsor of Ottawa's 4-20 event, said there will be mixed emotions at the April 20 event on Parliament Hill. "Some people are going to be celebrating this, what they perceive as a newfound liberation," Foster said. "Anyone who actually reads the whole document is going to realize there's not much there to celebrate." [continues 160 words]
Marijuana activist Jodie Emery brought the fight over illegal dispensaries to the seat of government Wednesday, with a rally on Parliament Hill that kicked off the opening of a new Ottawa store that sells pot to anyone over 19. Emery is a well-known marijuana activist, who runs a successful chain of stores called Cannabis Culture with her husband, Marc Emery. The couple are known as the "prince and princess of pot." At a small rally on Wednesday, Emery and a dozen supporters railed against the government's "injustices," including arrests of dispensary staff and strict regulation of access to the drug that has resulted in raids on illegal shops. [continues 111 words]
Police say have to get warrant again to shut down a store Despite a raid on Chinatown's Cannabotanix Dispensary at 646 Somerset St. Friday that saw two people arrested, the shop was back to normal operations Monday. The employee inside the shop said she couldn't talk about the raid and said to call the owner. A chalkboard in the entrance lists the owner's name as "Grant" and a number to call in case of any problems. The number goes straight to voicemail and has a 520 area code indicating the Victoria area. [continues 274 words]
Machines may be used to give addicts access to clean supplies Ottawa Public Health is exploring a pilot project that would allow drug users to access clean needles and pipes from a vending machine. Deputy Medical Officer of Health Vera Etches said the idea goes back to 2013, when OPH hosted a needs assessment with feedback from community groups and police looking at service gaps. "Most services that distribute supplies so people will use sterile supplies each time and decrease their risk of transmission operate Monday to Friday 8:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.," she said. "There's no place for people to access supplies overnight and on weekends." [continues 228 words]
Ottawa should aim to have two or three supervised injection sites in locations most likely to be used by drug users, said Ahmed M. Bayoumi, a researcher and physician at St. Michael's Hospital in Toronto. Bayoumi,helped conduct a recent study on the cost-effectiveness of supervised injection sites in Toronto and Ottawa. They found that the optimal number for Ottawa was two. But with overdoses on the rise in Ottawa, Bayoumi said the study might have underestimated that number. [continues 169 words]
If you're held up downtown, it could be due to a pot protest. A medical marijuana advocacy group calling itself Patients Lives Matter says it will block traffic in Ottawa and hold other peaceful protests until the federal government listens to its demands. The group called on allies to hold similar demonstrations across the country. "The public won't know when, where, how many people will be involved or how long each demonstration will last," said Alex Newcombe, who spoke on Parliament Hill Thursday. [continues 142 words]
Canada Post unrest has some looking for alternates Medical marijuana patients are bracing for late prescription deliveries and mail disruptions as Canada Post labour talks continue this week. As of Monday, Canada Post had yet to give the required 72 hours notice of a lockout, and the postal workers union had yet to give notice of job action. But some licensed cannabis producers have already found alternate delivery methods for the tens of thousands of Canadian patients who get their medicine by mail. [continues 349 words]
Group seeks to address fears as proposal to go to council The group that is proposing to create a supervised injection site in Sandy Hill said it will have security on site to address fears about an increase in drug-related crime - something Ottawa police chief Charles Bordeleau said is a significant concern. The Sandy Hill Community Health Centre is gearing up to formally ask the federal government for an exemption to allow such a site to exist, but has to win the support of city leaders first. [continues 233 words]
Councillor ready for site but wants more than one An Ottawa councillor says he welcomes a supervised injection site downtown - but only if there are similar services across the city. On Monday, Rideau-Vanier Coun. Mathieu Fleury and five other councillors on the board of health will debate a staff report that recommends opening a supervised injection site in the city. Given that the Sandy Hill Community Health Centre has already consulted on its plan to provide such a service, a supervised injection site will likely go in his ward. [continues 472 words]
Advocate plans to file complaint if shop closed The founder of a marijuana vapour lounge on Montreal Road said he "absolutely" expects to be targeted by city bylaw when the province updates its smoking regulations. The Ontario government passed amendments to the Smoke-free Ontario Act last Thursday, which make it possible to ban medical marijuana and e-cigarettes anywhere tobacco is already prohibited. That includes private businesses, so Wayne Robillard's vape lounge, called Buzz On, could suddenly find itself on the wrong side of the law. [continues 148 words]
Ontario's new attorney general says Ottawa should heed the advice of its top doctor, who is publicly urging the city to support supervised injection sites. In his first interview since Monday's cabinet shuffle, Ottawa Centre MPP Yasir Naqvi expressed support for the controversial sites as a means to reduce harm to drug addicts. "I believe in evidence-based solutions," Naqvi told Metro on Tuesday morning. "If the officer of health is telling us that the evidence results in better care and ensuring people get the treatment and that we reduce the harm to the individual and to others through reducing the risk of the transfer of HIV and hepatitis C, then we should pay close attention to that expert advice." [continues 191 words]
Ottawa Man Argues For The Right To Smoke Up In Public Local marijuana advocate Russell Barth has lost his human rights case against Mayor Jim Watson, but his fight for medical marijuana rights is far from over. Barth complained to the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal after Watson was quoted last spring saying licensed medical marijuana users should "use that product on your property in your own house" instead of in public places. Watson made the comments after a Vanier vapour lounge, Buzz On, opened on Montreal Road. [continues 260 words]
Our urban affairs columnist is growing frustrated over the delays for supervised injection sites. When the topic of supervised injection sites comes up, I prepare to get frustrated. So last week, as the Sandy Hill Community Centre held the first of a series of public consultations on a proposed site, I braced for the usual Groundhog Day dance of official mulishness, denial of evidence, and delay, delay, delay. Our mayor and police chief didn't disappoint. They're still both against supervised facilities for people to inject drugs, despite the overwhelming evidence that they cut the risk of overdose, HIV and Hep-C. It'll encourage crime, says the chief. Health care dollars are scarce, says the mayor. [continues 446 words]
Sandy Hill to vote on plan for supervised facility The Sandy Hill Community Health Centre is preparing to apply for a supervised injection site at its Nelson Street location downtown. So what does that mean? First of all, what is it? Supervised injection sites provide injection drug users a clean, supervised place to shoot up, reducing risk of overdose and disease, according to Rob Boyd, who runs the centre's harm reduction program. Clients bring their own drugs to the site, where a nurse monitors for signs of overdose, delivers first aid and offers education about supervised injection. Since the drugs are illegal, such a facility requires a federal exemption. There are only two in Canada so far, both in Vancouver. [continues 279 words]
It's not surprising that feeling supremely stoned in front of two uniformed police officers is a truly embarrassing feeling. Yet that's exactly how I felt Thursday when Ottawa Police Const. TJ Jellinek was instructing me to walk toe-to-toe in a straight line while counting out loud at the Shaw Centre. Ottawa police officers were at the Ottawa-Gatineau International Auto Show to give live demonstrations of a drugged driving simulation suit designed by Ford to show what it's like to operate a vehicle while impaired by cannabis, LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, or heroin. [continues 194 words]
Legalities mean some can no longer grow own product Suzi Strand kept a small backyard garden last summer. The Ottawa resident did not have the energy to maintain a large plot of veggies and herbs. She battles multiple sclerosis, fibromyalgia and trigeminal neuralgia (commonly referred to as the "suicide disease"). There's one plant she wishes she could legally grow in that garden: medical cannabis, which she says would help alleviate her pain. Strand once had the permit to produce marijuana plants in her backyard. But she got caught in a federal court loophole that has turned her into one of the "left outs" - or one of the users who was not included on an injunction that allowed private home growers to keep growing. [continues 489 words]
Laurie MacEachern is one of tens of thousands of the country's medicinal cannabis users - and millions of recreational tokers - rejoicing over the Liberal majority election win on Monday. With Prime Minister-designate Justin Trudeau's plan to regulate marijuana, MacEachern said she's looking forward to growing her own medicine. "We who need cannabis as medicine have been fighting for our lives, against our own government, for our right to live," Maceachern, director of the Medicinal Cannabis Patients' Alliance of Canada Inc., told Metro over Facebook chat. "I am relieved that the battle seems to be over." [continues 167 words]
A former manager in Health Canada's old medical marijuana program is expected to open Ottawa's first National Access Cannabis (NAC) centre. The company first opened its doors in Victoria, B.C. in March and will officially open a second location Monday morning at 1111 Wellington St. W. in Hintonburg. The centre bills itself as an educational centre for Canadians considering cannabis as an alternative medicine, which offers resources on how to use the drug safely. The company's CEO, Gulwant Bajwa, worked on the Marihuana Medical Access Regulations (MMAR) program, which was repealed on March 31, 2014. [continues 353 words]
Top Court Has Expanded Ways to Consume the Drug Local medical marijuana users are applauding a Supreme Court of Canada ruling that expands the ways licensed patients can consume the drug, including one couple who say they no longer need to be looking over their shoulder. Russell Barth and his wife Christine Lowe are both licensed medical marijuana users. Barth suffers from fibromyalgia, a chronic pain condition, and Lowe suffers from epilepsy. Both also suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder. Barth said this ruling is a big deal for them because as Lowe's caregiver, he treats her seizures using a vaping pen and cannabis concentrate oil referred to as "shatter," or dabbing wax. [continues 193 words]
Allan Rock's Wife Says They Are 'Not Close' To a Licence Documents obtained by Metro show Allan Rock and his family are behind a business venture that is seeking Health Canada's approval to grow "premium medicinal marijuana." The family has registered two companies - RockGardens Medicinals Inc. and an Ontario numbered company. University of Ottawa president Allan Rock and his family are behind a budding new business venture - now all they need is a licence from the federal government to grow medical marijuana. [continues 601 words]
'We're not doing anything illegal,' Wayne Robillard says The owner of BuzzOn, Ottawa's new vapour lounge, is accusing police of trying to intimidate his customers. Wayne Robillard told reporters at city hall on Wednesday that police have stopped in three times since he opened on April 20 and asked customers for ID. Officers confiscated one person's marijuana, he said. "They're trying to find a backdoor way to shut us down," he said, clad in a white T-shirt with "I am Cannabian" emblazoned across the front. "We're not doing anything illegal, so they have to find another way." [continues 270 words]
Former soldier pushing to meet with minister Former soldiers who want timely access to medical marijuana say they are undeterred despite having been denied a meeting with Veterans Affairs Minister Erin O'Toole. Retired corporal Clayton Goodwin, who represents a group known as Veterans for the Use of Medical Marijuana, was shut out of O'Toole's stakeholder meeting Tuesday at the Canadian War Museum. A spokesperson for the minister said Veteran Affairs staff have spoken with Goodwin and are setting up a one-on-one meeting. [continues 232 words]
There was rare harmony between our federal, provincial and local politicians last week as they gathered to announce the feds' $62-million contribution to the Ottawa River Action Plan. The infrastructure upgrade, which will reduce the filth flowing into the Ottawa River, is pretty uncontroversial. Who favours pollution? And who doesn't like to see our officials from different levels and parties play nice? Depends what they're playing at. Pierre Poilievre, the federal minister responsible for our region, later talked to Metro to tout the investment, but also to defend Bill C-2, The Respect For Communities Act, passed by the House of Commons last month, which raises new barriers to opening supervised injection sites for intravenous drug users. [continues 435 words]
Ottawa Police Chief Charles Bordeleau wrote an open letter to city residents about recent street gang violence, distributed Wednesday. In the letter while saying "we live in a safe city," Bordeleau acknowledges an increase in "targeted, street gang-related shootings," and says the incidents are related to illegal drugs, the availability of guns, and the "increased willingness of street gang members to use them." Bordealeau says preventing the activity and arresting those involved is a "top operational priority" for the force, but says longer-term solutions lie with community agencies who can assist in steering people away from the gang lifestyle. [continues 631 words]
Police Increasing Patrols As Area Sees Third Shooting in Two Weeks With three shootings on Penny Drive in the past two weeks, Ottawa police have increased their presence in the neighbourhood and residents will continue to see more police patrolling their streets, says the force's chief. But an increased police presence wasn't enough to stop the latest shooting Wednesday evening, when bullets ripped through a van and a residence in the 2000 block of Penny Drive. The van was vacant, but there were people inside the residence at the time of the shooting. [continues 268 words]
'Nothing funny about it.' Medical marijuana patients upset about grower's 'lighthearted' news release Dozens of medical marijuana patients are upset over a recent media release sent out by Tweed Inc. that they say makes light of their debilitating illnesses. In the release, the commercial medical marijuana producer evokes holiday marketing with the headline, 'Tweed Has You Covered for the 13th Day of Christmas,' and leads off the release with "As people around the country prepare their homes for the holiday season, Tweed is decking the halls with a slightly different variety of greenery." [continues 311 words]
David-George Oldham. Former TD employee takes case to Human Rights Commission after he says he was fired for medicating at work A former TD Bank employee in Ottawa says he was fired for using medical marijuana while on the job and he's taken his complaint to the Canadian Human Rights Commission. David-George Oldham says he suffers from migraines and chronic back pain. He has been a licensed medical marijuana user since Dec. 31, 2013 and began smoking pot at work to alleviate his symptoms. [continues 332 words]
Marc Emery, Canada's Prince of Pot, is expecting to be a free man come Tuesday. The marijuana activist has finished serving a four-year jail term in the U.S. for selling seeds online. He's been informed he'll be released from a privately run Louisiana detention centre - where he was being processed for deportation - and then placed on the next flight to Detroit. From there, he'll be walked across the border to Windsor, Ont., likely on Tuesday, according to his wife, Jodie Emery. [continues 151 words]
Health Professional Turns to Skype to Help Patients Fill Pot Prescriptions As Colleagues Fear Career Consequences Canadian doctors who prescribe medical marijuana are feeling a chill, as health officials apply pressure on them to stop prescribing a drug they know little about. Daviau says new rules governing Canada's medical marijuana program are making it harder for patients to find doctors willing to prescribe the drug. A doctor in Toronto was willing to go on the record to talk about the stigma surrounding medical pot and the benefits patients derive from the drug. But when he heard several colleagues are being scrutinized by the College of Physicians and Surgeons, he backed out. [continues 679 words]
A medical-marijuana company is disputing what it calls "excessive" buffer zones laid out in a city bylaw regulating grow-ops. Cannabis Canada Medical Inc. is appealing the zoning amendment to the Ontario Municipal Board (OMB) on the grounds that the required 150-metre setback is "onerous." According to the appeal, the noise and odour issues do not require that large a buffer zone, because the smells will be contained, the building will be well insulated and growing plants is a quiet process. [continues 123 words]
Medical marijuana. Ottawa clinic offers patients a 'telemedical' link to pot-prescribing doctors over the 'net An Ottawa-based medical marijuana licensing clinic is reaching out to patients as far as the Yukon by facilitating doctor visits through Skype. Robert Callaghan, patient navigator for Medical Marijuana Services (MMS), says telemedicine allows his company to link up remote patients with pot-prescribing doctors. Most physicians in Canada are still hesitant to prescribe the drug to patients he says. "It is extremely hard to find a doctor," said Callaghan. "Our service reaches people. We are going to process thousands of patients over the next five years." [continues 309 words]
Weed Day. Annual Protest/Party Touts Medical Uses, Potential Tax Benefits Thousands of pro-marijuana activists lit up blunts and bongs at Parliament Hill on Sunday afternoon to promote pot legalization. The annual 4-20 Weed Day rally was less like a protest and more like a giant outdoor party, with people hula-hooping, playing Hacky Sack, waving giant marijuana-leaf flags and donning dreads. Claude Galipeau, spokesperson for the committee that organizes the rally, said the group's message to the Conservative government is "stop unjustly criminalizing cannabis and start benefiting from it." [continues 210 words]
'Charlotte's Web'. Non-THC Strain Of Marijuana Only Available In The U.S. Kim Martelle just wants her daughter to grow up like other kids: playing, swimming and getting into a little bit of trouble. But for eight-year-old Cadence Hope, many of her days have been spent in a wheelchair with a hockey helmet strapped to her head to prevent brain damage from the multiple "aggressive seizures" she has daily. "While parents are busy buying hockey helmets for their kids to play hockey, we were busy buying a hockey helmet so that our daughter could go out in the 40 C heat of summer to play with her brother," said Martelle, beginning to cry. [continues 242 words]
Laurie MacEachern Uses Medical Marijuana to Treat Several Ailments A 54-year-old "grandmother with no criminal record" is waiting for the day RCMP officers show up to raid her Cornwall home. She expects it to be any day now. Laurie MacEachern uses medical marijuana to treat her idiopathic neuropathy, fibromyalgia, irritable bowel syndrome and spinal injury. She grows her own pot in a home garden, but when April 1 rolls around, she will be considered a criminal. "We are all pretty stressed out," said MacEachern, breaking down into sobs. [continues 282 words]
Cha-ching! Tax grab could mean $5 million a month: Economist An Ontario-based economist says that Colorado has proven what many have been saying all along: Legalize marijuana, regulate it and the tax dollars will come flowing in. It's been estimated that in the first month of legalized weed sales, the state made a cool $2.1 million in taxes. That's outside of the $1.4 million it made taxing medicinal marijuana. Richard Ivey School of Business associate professor Mike Moffatt said the tax works out to about 40 cents for each of Colorado's 5.2 million people. [continues 175 words]
With prices expected to skyrocket under new rules, an Ottawa man and his wife want the government to cover them for 40 years worth An Ottawa couple who uses medical marijuana is suing the federal government for a combined $6.5 million, a projected figure of what it will cost them to stay medicated for the next 40 years when Health Canada changes the rules to its Marihuana Medical Access Regulations program. Russell Barth says he consumes about 11 to 12 grams of pot every day (he says he has a prescription for 16 grams per day) for pain management related to his fibromyalgia symptoms as well as post-traumatic stress. Barth and his wife, Christine Lowe, who suffers from epilepsy, say they have a designated grower, an arrangement they say allows them to stay medicated for far less than it will cost under the new rules. [continues 265 words]
Mailout gaffe. Stress makes life difficult for patients after being exposed by Health Canada Imagine what it might be like to possess a medical-marijuana licence in Canada. Now, take away all the junk food, video games, lounging around and other typical stereotypes that are often associated with pot use. Add a sore back, sleeplessness, chronic pain all over your whole body, arthritis, extreme nausea and a constant headache. When I broke the story of Health Canada exposing 40,000 medical-marijuana patients in a mailout gaffe in November, those are the stories I came across. Harrowing tales of very sick people-with everything from multiple sclerosis to terminal cancer - who spend the entirety of their days trying to manage pain. [continues 251 words]
Insite-Style Model. Debate Over Whether City Should Spend Money on Treatment or Harm Reduction Rages On Any decision on whether Ottawa should have a safe injection and inhalation site for drug users is up to the community, not the police, according to Chief Charles Bordeleau. Bordeleau said Wednesday his position on the sites has not changed: he would prefer to invest resources on treatment, rather than harm reduction. "I don't envy anybody being an addict and being reliant on drugs," Bordeleau said. "But I think those who are, we're better off investing (resources) on the treatment end of it to deal with their habit." [continues 233 words]
