Maptalk-Digest Saturday, December 15 2001 Volume 01 : Number 329
U.S. Withdraws From ABM Treaty
From: "kim hanna" <>
Just Say NO to marijuana & YES to Smirnoff
From: "kim hanna" <>
Re: MAP: Cato : War on Terrorism Weakens the Drug War
From:
'A Drug-Free America By 2002' GOP-LOL
From: "Dave Michon" <>
Sent to Denny Hastert
From: "Dave Michon" <>
The History of Our Illustrious Drug Warriors
From: "Jack R. Lebowitz" <>
More DEA 'heads up'...
From: "Jack R. Lebowitz" <>
Re: The History of Our Illustrious Drug Warriors
From: "Dave Michon" <>
Fwd: Re: Fwd: MAP: LTE on WHAT DID YOU DO IN THE WAR DADDY?
From: Steve Young <>
Totally off topic but it struck my funny bone.
From: Mark Greer <>
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Subj: U.S. Withdraws From ABM Treaty
From: "kim hanna" <>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:32:11
America can withdraw from the ABM Treaty but
NOBODY is allowed to withdraw from Single Convention Treaty on Drugs. I
wish some nations would use this
U.S. treaty withdrawal as an example and get out of the WOD.
2cents.
Kim
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U.S. Withdraws From ABM Treaty
Russia's Putin Calls Decision a 'Mistake'
By RON FOURNIER
.c The Associated Press
WASHINGTON (Dec. 13) - Abandoning a landmark arms-control regime of three
decades, President Bush said Thursday the United States is pulling out of
the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty with Russia in hopes of building the
world's first shield against nuclear missile attacks.
Russian President Vladimir Putin called the action a mistake but his
criticism was muted, evidence in the eyes of U.S. officials that the Sept.
11 terrorist attacks against the United States had transformed the
anti-missile debate and the U.S.-Russian relationship.
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Subj: Just Say NO to marijuana & YES to Smirnoff
From: "kim hanna" <>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:37:24
Report: NBC, in Pact with Diageo, to Run Liquor Ads
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Television network NBC, a unit of global giant General
Electric Co., will begin running advertisements for so-called hard liquor,
the first of the four biggest broadcasters to accept commercials for
distilled spirits in about 50 years, The Wall Street Journal said on Friday.
The shift, part of a deal with the UK's Diageo, comes at a time when
advertising revenues are way down, the newspaper said in its online edition.
Diageo's brands include Smirnoff vodka, Tanqueray gin and Johnnie Walker
whiskies.
NBC's competitors, such as Viacom Inc.'s CBS and UPN, Walt Disney Co.'s ABC,
News Corp.'s Fox and AOL Time Warner Inc.'s WB, said they don't have plans
to change their policy, the newspaper said.
The move could alienate the beer industry, which does advertise on
television, it added.
Leading brewers Anheuser-Busch Cos. and Philip Morris Cos., Miller Brewing
and others spent about $480 million on televised beer advertising in 2000,
The Wall Street Journal said.
Hard liquor commercials have appeared on local stations and cable for a few
years, the newspaper said, adding that networks have hesitated doing the
same for fear of a public backlash.
The new advertising initiatives come with some restrictions, The Wall Street
Journal said.
NBC will run liquor ads during the prime-time hours of 9 p.m. to 11 p.m., as
well as during late-night shows "Saturday Night Live" and "Tonight Show with
Jay Leno," it said.
The network will also ask advertisers to agree to at least four months of
promotional spots that focus on "social responsibility messages" before
general product promotion messages air, it added. And NBC is demanding that
at least 20 percent of liquor advertising have a social responsibility
theme, The Wall Street Journal said.
The first spot, for Smirnoff vodka, will go on air this weekend on "Saturday
Night Live," the newspaper added.
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Subj: Re: MAP: Cato : War on Terrorism Weakens the Drug War
From:
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 12:47:08 -0600
On around Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:43:10 -0800, "RL Root" <>
posted this message in news:internal.mailing-list.drugs.map.talk . . .
> "Some officials have compared the new war on terrorism with the war on
> drugs," he writes. "That's a depressing thought: We've been fighting
the
> drug war for 87 years, and drug use is as high as ever. A better tack
is
> to take some of the $40 billion we spend annually on the futile drug
war
> and reallocate it to the war on terrorism. Use the Drug Enforcement
> Administration's agents to search for pipe bombs, not marijuana pipes."
Given George Bush's comments today at the Anti-Drug Forum, I think he
must
disagree. He even said that if you stop using drugs, you join the fight
against terrorism.
Ethan
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Subj: 'A Drug-Free America By 2002' GOP-LOL
From: "Dave Michon" <>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:09:53 -0600
At http://hillsource.house.gov/IssueFocus/IssueBriefs/IBMain/Drugs520.pdf
From Denny Hastert's "Speaker's Drug War" page, which should be a gold-mine
for this sort of material, at:
http://www.speaker.gov/library/issues/druglinks.asp
A DRUG-FREE AMERICA BY 2002
Winning the War on Drugs To Protect Our Children
The Congressional battle plan to win the War on Drugs is being waged on
three major fronts: (1) DETERRING DEMAND; (2) STOPPING SUPPLY; and (3)
INCREASING ACCOUNTABILITY.
On April 30, 1998, House Republicans joined with grassroots activists,
parents and school children to declare their commitment to win the War on
Drugs by 2002. By signing
a Declaration of Commitment, Republicans pledged to work personally to
mobilize kids, parents, faith-based and community organizations, educators,
local officials and law enforcement officers, as well as coaches and
athletes to wage a winning war on drugs.
As part of this effort, Republicans will support legislation that provides
every American the tools necessary to protect our children from the dangers
of drug addiction and violence. Over the past several weeks, House
Republicans have made significant progress in implementing our agenda to
create a Drug-Free America by 2002.
From http://hillsource.house.gov/IssueFocus/IssueBriefs/IBMain/Drug3.pdf
we find these claims which can be used when Walters says it's a myth about
drug arrests and whatever else:
Consider these facts about drugs and crime :
- --more than 1.5 million people were arrested from drug offenses alone, which
is more than the number of residents living in Montana and North Dakota
combined;
- --typical street cops claim that reducing drug abuse would have the greatest
single impact on reducing violent crime.
- ---according to the drug czar's office, drugs killed 14,218 Americans in
1995 at the cost of more than $67 billion;
- ---more than 1.5 million Americans were arrested in 1996 for drug
violations;
- ---between 70 percent and 90 percent of all persons incarcerated in state
prisons are there for drug offenses
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Subj: Sent to Denny Hastert
From: "Dave Michon" <>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:19:30 -0600
Your views on Drug Prohibition are well-known. I believe you are wrong and
that it is time, at long last, to try the alternative. I read at your
website about the "Drug-Free Communities by 2002" GOP resolution and was
shocked by the naivete` of the thing. As we both know, there have been many
other 'Drug-Free America' promises that have fizzed. It's time we had a
'Drug-Smart America' and the first step will be in removing the criminal
onus from addiction.
Sincerely,
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Subj: The History of Our Illustrious Drug Warriors
From: "Jack R. Lebowitz" <>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:00:52 -0800
Somehow today, because of news of the recent DEA-Terrorism conference, I
ended up on the DEA Museum website
(http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/deamuseum/home.htm) which has the cartoonish
propaganda drawing of the terrorist showering our citizens with drugs...
And I spent enough time surfing around to figure out (as if we didn't know)
that these DEA guys are not neutral law enforcement types simply trying to
execute laws, but are rather the major propagandists and cheerleaders for
the punitive repression we have come to know and hate.
Consider these two typical gems...one an explanation of why we need the WOD
at all, and the other their last big public attempt at rallying the troops
against those dreaded "legalizers":
>RISE OF THE MODERN DRUG CULTURE: 1960's & 1970's
>
>By the 1960s, the great majority of Americans had forgotten the lessons of
>the first drug epidemic. Moreover, the new Bohemians, Beat literary types,
>were sending a very different and powerful cultural message: drugs and
>altered states were part of being hip, social rebels. By encouraging a
>whole generation to see drug use as "normal," these cultural icons
>consigned millions to re-learn the painful consequences of rampant drug
>use--even as the drug menu was expanding to include amphetamines and
>psychedelics. When many of the 76 million baby boomers embraced not just
>drugs, but also dealing and trafficking, the drug culture exploded.
>
>The U.S. Government responded with new laws and new anti-drug units,
>culminating in the creation of the Drug Enforcement Administration in 1973.
>Anti-Legalization Forum (1994)
>
>Police Chiefs, DEA personnel, and representatives of the private sector at
>the opening session of the DEA-sponsored forum on drug legalization in 1994.
>
>In response to the growing calls for the legalization of drugs by a small,
>vocal group of individuals, Administrator Constantine asked the DEA to
>sponsor a forum on how to address arguments calling for the legalization
>of drugs. The conference, held on August 16-18, 1994, at the Training
>Academy in Quantico, brought together DEA personnel, police chiefs, and
>representatives of the private sector to discuss various sides of the
>issue. The participants were asked to refine the arguments that could be
>made against legalization and to evaluate ways to address the topic in an
>effective and meaningful way. At the end of the two-day session, group
>leaders presented the recommendations of each group. The participants'
>findings highlighted the importance of focusing legalization arguments on
>the concrete aspects of legalizing marijuana rather than abstract,
>theoretical ideas that were often presented by proponents of legalization.
>The forum participants also emphasized the importance of clearing up
>misperceptions often held by legalization proponents. The findings of the
>conference were presented in a written guide that police chiefs and others
>who speak out on the legalization issue used as a reference manual. Other
>resources, including fact sheets, newspaper articles, and a video, were
>also developed as a result of the forum.
Proud to be part a new Bohemian Beat literary type as well as part of a
small vocal group of individuals,
J
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Subj: More DEA 'heads up'...
From: "Jack R. Lebowitz" <>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 16:27:39 -0500
Surfing over to the DEA website itself http://www.dea.gov/advisories.html,
I see that Assa's put out a release yesterday announcing a press conference
he's scheduled for next Tuesday to announce some kind of major new
initiative, called IDEA for "Integrated Drug Enforcement Assistance" where
the DEA will team up with various "communities" to do a two-pronged
approach which will (1) put drug dealers in jail and (2) "Following the
enforcement deployment, ...assist in providing a long term package aimed at
addressing the community's drug prevention and community mobilization
needs. This package will include an on-site DEA Special Agent working with
experts in crime prevention, alternative judicial systems such as drug
courts, restorative justice initiatives, drug testing and law enforcement
training."
Secret Police getting together with, e.g. Dr. Voth and Calvina Fay. I can
hardly wait.
Wishing there was something that could be done to derail that effort#,
J
#/Hey, anyone know any pesky journalists on our side who can show up and
crash the party with a few nicely placed questions...forward this if you
do! ;-)
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Subj: Re: The History of Our Illustrious Drug Warriors
From: "Dave Michon" <>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:01:13 -0600
Re:
Anti-Legalization Forum (1994)
"The participants'
>findings highlighted the importance of focusing legalization arguments on
>the concrete aspects of legalizing marijuana rather than abstract,
>theoretical ideas that were often presented by proponents of legalization."
Therein lies the rub. We have no concrete proposals to go out and sell.
Everything is a concept. And they answer everything with "there will be more
drugs and that will be bad."
They are on message at all times.
Dave
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Subj: Fwd: Re: Fwd: MAP: LTE on WHAT DID YOU DO IN THE WAR DADDY?
From: Steve Young <>
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 00:08:23 -0600
>Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 01:04:05 +0000
>To: Steve Young <>
>From: "M. Simon" <>
>
>Subject: Re: Fwd: MAP: LTE on WHAT DID YOU DO IN THE WAR DADDY?
>
>
>The Rock River Times is a publication in Rockford, Illinois. Rockford is
>split by the Rock River.
>
>The editor often prints out of town letters. Let your list know.
>Publication deadline is Monday noon.
>
>Spread it far and wide. Please note that I retain all rights for
>commercial publication.
>
>My intention is to make the drug warriors ashamed of what they are doing.
>Simon
>
>======================================================================
>
>At 12:49 PM 12/14/01 -0600, Steve Young wrote:
>>Hi Simon,
>>
>>Don't know if you are on the MAPTalk list - if so you've already seen
>>this and can disregard. But, if not, I thought you might be interested to
>>see the reaction your column is drawing this week.
>>
>>Keep up the good work.
>>
>>Best,
>>Steve
>From: "Dave's home" <>
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>Subject: MAP: LTE on WHAT DID YOU DO IN THE WAR DADDY?
>Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 07:50:13 -0400
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>This essay is PRIMO!!! I feel the same way, Boris! I sent this to Lew
>Rockwell, hopefully he'll post it on his excellent website (he posted
>article link on Dr. Grinspoon's site, on testimony how marijuana helps
>elderly) as this essay needs to get around as much as possible.
>
>the anti-state, anti-war, pro-market news
>http://www.lewrockwell.com/
>
>With Switzerland making a move now to have legal coffeehouses, England
>moving towards decry, France possible changing its tune, and of course
>Canada making some bold moves of its own, I think its time for the
>California activists to really politically ASSERT themselves AGAINST the
>INJUSTICES of ASHCROFT and the horrible abuses of power he has unleashed
>against medical marijuana users there. Maybe they should all MOVE to B.C.,
>those who can, (and maybe those who cannot we can have a worldwide fund
>drive to help 'em ESCAPE the clutches of tyranny, made in USA!) and form a
>kind of GROUP in EXILE, and switch TACTICS. I don't think you can fight the
>injustice in courts anymore in the States; their WOT has effectively put
>everything on a "war-making" footing.
>
>The expression "you can't fight city hall" is especially true when "city
>hall" is following the dictates of such a repressive, intolerant and abusive
>Attorney General, imo.
>
>peace presence,
>David d'Apollonia
>
>Dear Lew Rockwell,
>
>Just got this from my mail list group. "WHAT DID YOU DO IN THE WAR DADDY?"
>This is such a moving essay (from the Rock River Times! What a name!) and
>really gets the point across, I believe. I'm sure your readers would
>appreciate and benefit from such an insightful viewpoint, considering how
>much sanctimonious banter is being foisted on the American people by the
>Bush Administration and its war-making machinations.
>
> >From Illinois, ironically; wasn't that one of the chief bastions of the Al
>Capone empire?
>
>Al Capone by Marilyn Bardsley
>Made In America
>http://www.crimelibrary.com/capone/caponemain.htm
>
>peace presence,
>David d'Apollonia
>
>URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n2064/a01.html
>Newshawk: M. Simon
>Pubdate: Thu, 13 Dec 2001
>Source: Rock River Times (IL)
>Copyright: The Rock River Times 2001
>Contact:
>Website: http://www.rockrivertimes.com/
>Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/539
>Author: M. L. Simon
>
>WHAT DID YOU DO IN THE WAR DADDY?
>
>I chased criminal plants. I tore up fields of hemp. A plant that looks
>like marijuana but has no psychoactive effect. I filled the jails with drug
>users, letting untold numbers of violent criminals get a free pass to make
>sure there was room for dealers and users of the wrong kinds of drugs. I
>let terrorists go free in order to concentrate on jailing people out for a
>little drug induced fun. Of course I ignored those using the most harmful
>drugs commonly available in society, alcohol and tobacco.
>
>I started a war to repress the people of Bolivia and Columbia. I did it
>because some of our citizens prefer snorting Bolivian cocaine to drinking
>Columbian coffee. I did this based on the same religious intolerance that
>led to alcohol prohibition. I did this based on Puritan totalitarianism
>rather than American pluralism. I knew from history that in every single
>instance of American prohibition that the side effects of the cure were
>worse than the disease. Yet I persisted.
>
>I contributed to the loss of Bill of Rights for all Americans by taking away
>those rights from the demonized drug users. I got the rules of evidence
>changed at the Federal level so that no evidence of a crime is necessary.
>Just some snitches word. I worked hard to see that such snitches were well
>rewarded either with money, drugs, or shortened jail sentences. I also
>worked hard to make sure that profits on the prohibited substances were high
>enough so that criminals could easily afford to corrupt our police, border
>guards, and politicians.
>
>I turned some neighborhoods into shooting gallerys where armed bands fought
>over marketing rights in various territories. If there were not enough
>murders in these neighborhoods I shortened the supplies of the various
>commodities to up the economic pressure until violence broke out. If that
>didn't work I weakened the dominant militia until a rival could dispute its
>marketing territory, there by increasing the clamor of the local citizens
>for protection from the armed thugs. It worked. Our budgets kept growing.
>I worked as hard as possible to see that the American police spent 50% or
>more of their time chasing Americans pursuing the wrong kind of happiness.
>
>I worked hard to get children to inform on their parents. We got quite a
>few to turn in their parents for indulging in a substance safer than
>aspirin. Of course we jailed the parents and made the children jail
>orphans. Then we decried the breakdown of the family. Such fun.
>
>And while making war on 5 to 10% of all Americans I ignored any warnings of
>terrorist threats and concentrated on the civil war against users of the
>wrong kinds of drugs. It seemed like the right thing to do at the time.
>
>After years of doing my best to enrich the criminal class and destroy
>America I finally came to my senses. September 11th woke me up. Real
>unavoidable terror had come to America. What postal worker wouldn't be
>happy to have avoidable cocaine fall out of an envelope rather than
>unavoidable anthrax? I decided that all the police effort going into
>preventing people from pursuing happiness could be better spent chasing real
>criminals and terrorists. I asked my boss if I couldn't transfer to airport
>security, the FBI, border patrol, or any other job where I could really
>fight the terrorist enemy instead of supporting them directly or indirectly.
>And my boss understood. He was already thinking along the same lines
>himself.
>
>I'm happy to tell you I got my transfer and I got my self respect back.
>
>This weeks saying:
>
>What is the difference between drug prohibition and alcohol prohibition?
>Seventy four years so far.
>
>Ask a politician:
>
>Do you support drug prohibition because it finances criminals at home or
>because it finances terrorists abroad?
>
>E.J. is getting a clemency hearing in January. He needs you to contact the
>governor to ask that he be set free to be an asset to the community rather
>than a burden. He has no wish to be jailed and according to the facts of
>his case there is no need. He hurt no one by selling for medical use a
>plant safer than aspirin.
>
>Contact the governor at:
>
>Office of the Governor 207 Statehouse Springfield, IL 62706
>
>217-782-0244 voice
>
>217-558-2239 TDD
>
>217-524-4049 fax
>
>
>
>M.L. Simon is an industrial controls designer and independent political
>activist.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Boris" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 4:26 AM
>Subject: CMAP: Re: WHAT DID YOU DO IN THE WAR DADDY?
>
> > I am moved by this letter. Bravo! (shedding a tear for the victims of this
> > crazy drug war
> >
> > :, (>
>
>(c) M. Simon - All rights reserved.
>
>Permission granted for one time use in a single periodical publication.
>
>Permission also granted for concurrent publication on the periodical's www
>site.
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Subj: Totally off topic but it struck my funny bone.
From: Mark Greer <>
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 15:15:21 -0800
The attached photo "Driving in Afghanistan" was worth the off topic post
IMO. But then again I have a warped sense of humor. :)
Apologies to those who don't appreciate it.
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