Pubdate: Mon, 05 Sep 2005
Source: Western Standard (Canada)
Copyright: 2005 Western Standard
Contact:  http://www.westernstandard.ca/
Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/3448
Author: Andrea Mrozek
Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/mjcn.htm (Cannabis - Canada)

QUESTION PERIOD - MARC EMERY

You now face extradition to the U.S. for selling marijuana seeds over 
the Internet to Americans. How did you get away with these activities 
until now?

Born: February 13, 1958, London, Ont. Marijuana legalization 
activist. Vancouver-based marijuana seed retailer. Former bookstore owner.

Western Standard: How successful has your marijuana activism been to date?

Marc Emery: I've been involved in political campaigns, and begging 
and pleading with people to give you money doesn't work. You need a 
self-sustaining capitalist engine to generate money to finance a 
revolution. Pot people typically were socialist, left-wing types who 
eschewed capitalism, and I said this is a very big mistake. I said we 
all have to learn to become business people and we have to use this 
money to get our word out.

In 1994, 26 per cent of Canadians believed that marijuana should be 
tax-regulated and legalized and now, in 2005, it's over 55 per cent 
that believe that. So the change in the Canadian public's mind has 
been substantial. Over the last 10 years I have given about $4.5 
million to over 300 organizations in North America, Canada and even 
Europe, and gotten hundreds of people out of jail and put up bail and 
paid for the lawyers. We paid for the [2003] Canadian Supreme Court 
hearing to legalize marijuana, which was lost six votes to three. 
When [Vancouver] Mayor Larry Campbell came out and advocated 
legalizing marijuana, he did so at a conference I paid for last year, 
called Beyond Prohibition, which cost me $20,000. I gave $25,000 to 
further the Nevada ballot initiative in 2000 to make marijuana legal, 
and $5,000 to the Alaska initiative in the year 2002 to make 
marijuana legal. I sponsored a drug addiction clinic that cost me 
$250,000 from the years 2002 to 2004, where we treated hard-core 
heroine and cocaine addicts.

WS: Why have you been so public about your illegal activities?

ME: Transparency is the key to getting public support. If the public 
does not see what you are doing, they suspect that you are hiding all 
this money, you are living the high life. I was the exact opposite. 
I've given $380,000 in personal income taxes to both the federal 
government and the B.C. government in the last five years. It was 
clearly told to them that this was from the sale of marijuana seeds. 
They never ever said, "Gee, I don't know if we can take this." They 
said, "Thank you Marc." Everything I have ever taken, I have given to 
the government their share. I regard them as very complicit. They 
knew all along what I was doing. I've never had criticisms or 
admonitions from the local police, the provincial government, the 
federal government.

WS: On July 29, you were arrested in Canada, at the behest of the 
U.S. Department of Justice. You now face extradition to the U.S. for 
selling marijuana seeds over the Internet to Americans. How did you 
get away with these activities until now?

ME: By being transparent. There was no harm going on. No one ever 
criticized it. They could see what we were doing. I was treating 
hard-core drug addicts. I was paying huge volumes in taxes. I was 
being very open about what I was doing. I said I want to see the end 
of the drug war. I'm using all my money to catalyze social change to 
this end through a capitalist model. Transparency gets very much 
appreciated by the public. They saw no harm in what was being done. A 
huge minority of the country smokes marijuana and many of the elite 
members of our society have smoked marijuana.

WS: How would you ensure the movement continues in Canada if you go 
to jail in the U.S.?

ME: They'll have somebody to rally around, they'll have a kind of 
icon, like Mahatma Gandhi provided the Indians, like Mandela provided 
the South Africans. Like Martin Luther King appealed to blacks. If I 
get martyred, then that will ultimately serve our purposes all around 
the world against the U.S. government. And this will make change happen faster.

The American empire is on the precipice of its decline. And the war 
in Iraq is going to contribute greatly to the destabilization of the 
United States in the eyes of the world and in the eyes of its own 
people. I've always advocated peaceful democratic change. And every 
dime I've ever spent was for change. And this is unusual in an era 
where people use bombs and threats and invasions and armies and 
interrogation and intimidation and imprisonment as a way of social 
change and social control. What I've always advocated is what every 
good Canadian should advocate: some kind of democratic hope, some 
kind of way for people to achieve their human rights and their human 
dignity without using violence, but by using money I earned as an 
example to persuade others of the folly of the drug war.