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SentLTE-Digest Tuesday, August 21 2012 Volume 12 : Number 035

001 LTE: Re: 'The no votes' '90 million: That's how many Americans could vo
    From: Kirk Muse <>
002 LTE: 'Voter ID law stops fraud'
    From: John Chase <>
003 LTE: Sent to the Oklahoman
    From: Kirk Muse <>


Subj: 001 LTE: Re: 'The no votes' '90 million: That's how many Americans could vote in November but likely won't'
From: Kirk Muse <>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:31:51 -0700

To the Editor of USA Today:

I am one of the 90 million because I have nobody to vote for.  Just two 
candidates to vote against.
I am convinced Obama has taken a multimillion dollar bribe from the 
Mexican drug cartels (No proof, just strong suspicions).
And Romney who I am convinced wants to turn America into a corporate run 
government.  (No proof, just strong suspicions).

Kirk Muse
1741 S. Clearview Ave.
Mesa, AZ 85209
(480) 396-3399

Thank you for considering this letter for publication.
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Subj: 002 LTE: 'Voter ID law stops fraud'
From: John Chase <>
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 05:41:14 -0700

Editors, The Tampa Tribune -

Re: Editorial 18 Aug, "Voter ID law stops fraud"

Yes, in the absolute, the voter ID law will stop fraud. But that should 
not be the issue. The issue should be how much and at what cost?  Every 
change in any law or regulation has societal benefits and societal 
costs. The best example is our anti-drug law. Worthwhile goals to "stop 
voter fraud" or "stop drug abuse" are often pretexts to hold down a 
segment of the citizenry thought to engage in such activity. Other 
legislation recently enacted by Florida -- and knocked down by the 
federal court -- weakens my confidence that the voter ID law is not just 
pretext to hold down citizens who mostly vote Democrat.

John Chase
727 787 3085
1620 E Dorchester Dr
Palm Harbor, FL 34684

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A Pennsylvania judge this week was correct to reject an ACLU challenge 
of its voter ID law, just as a Florida judge earlier this summer was 
correct to throw out parts of Florida's new law on voter registration.

The difference between the cases is instructive and shows how voter 
fraud can be prevented without unduly hampering citizens or playing 
partisan politics.

The Pennsylvania law required a photo ID to vote — just as Florida does.

It is a reasonable, indeed, essential requirement. Without such 
identification it would be easy for someone to cast a phony vote.

Critics say this puts a burden on the elderly, who frequently give up 
their driver's licenses. But as the Wall Street Journal points out, 
Pennsylvania also made it easier to get a state ID card for voting 
purposes and provides them free of charge. Beyond driver's licenses, 
other eligible photo IDs in Pennsylvania are passports, military ID, 
federal government employee ID and college ID.

Florida's superior ID law includes those cards as well as debit or 
credit cards, retirement center cards, neighborhood association IDs and 
public assistance IDs. Individuals who don't drive also can get a 
Florida ID card from the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor 

All these cards must have a photo and an expiration date, which allows 
poll workers to determine if they are still valid.

With such a wide range of options, no one can claim the photo ID mandate 
presents an unreasonable obstacle.

Similarly, identification for registering to vote in Florida is 
effective but not onerous. Citizens must provide a driver's license or 
the last four numbers of their Social Security number.

If you don't have a Social Security number, then you should have to do 
some explaining before you are allowed to vote.

These sensible identification safeguards contrast markedly with the 
disputed Florida voter registration law that seemed designed to 
discourage voters.

In response to a challenge by the Florida League of Women Voters, a U.S. 
district judge in June ordered an injunction against its provision that 
required third-party groups to submit voter-registration forms within 48 
hours or face $1,000 in fines. The law previously had allowed 10 days.

The requirement seemed aimed at harassing the League of Women Voters, 
the NAACP and other Democrat-leaning groups that conduct voter 
registration campaigns.

Supporters said it was intended to prevent fraud, but they could provide 
no evidence fraud was commonplace.

That's because existing identification laws provide strong protections 
against abuse.

Volunteer groups may occasionally turn in bogus names — Mickey Mouse or 
such — but the registration forms are not going to be approved and no 
one would be allowed to vote without the proper ID.

The 48-hour deadline and the tough penalties made voter registration, as 
the judge put it, "a risky business."

Indeed, the League of Women Voters suspended its traditional voter 
registration drives, fearing a volunteer who missed the deadline would 
be hit with a hefty, punishing fine.

The judge also pointed out the law was so poorly written it did not make 
clear whether the 48 hours included the hours when elections offices are 
closed at night. It also made no provision for organizations that 
distribute voter-registration applications for individuals to send in 
the mail. When they are mailed is clearly beyond an organization's control.

Florida's flawed registration law did virtually nothing to protect 
against fraudulent votes while making it more difficult to register voters.

In contrast, sensible voter identification laws genuinely prevent fraud 
without arbitrary mandates.

Lawmakers should attend such distinctions with dealing with citizens' 
vital right to vote.
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Subj: 003 LTE: Sent to the Oklahoman
From: Kirk Muse <>
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:18:23 -0700

To the Editor of The Oklahoman:

I'm writing about Many Ann O'Kane's thoughtful letter: "Early pardon for 
unjustly harsh sentence" (8-19-12). I submit that Patricia Spottedcrow 
should new have been sentenced to prison. Jails and prisons should be 
reserved for those who intentionally harm others against their will. Not 
gardeners. Not people who sell to willing buyer "unapproved" substances.

Who is the victim in her case?  Nobody.

Why is marijuana a criminalized substance?  Pure politics. Marijuana is 
a substitute for beer and other alcoholic beverages and powerful 
painkillers like Vicodin.

The beer industry knows this and so does the pharmaceutical industry.

Kirk Muse
Mesa, AZ
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